Last bus to Ischgl

Whilst I love skiing in Ischgl, one of the challenges of getting there under your own steam is that it's not on a train line - you have to get a bus up the mountain from Landeck-Zams railway station.

And whilst the bus is fairly frequent, it doesn't run very late - so this post looks at how late you can leave London / northern Europe and get to Ischgl without using a taxi.

In Winter 2022/23 the last 260 bus from Landeck-Zams station to Ischgl departed at 19:10 each evening (page 2 of the pdf).

INN to Landeck-Zams

Travelling by train from Innsbruck station the latest connection departs at 17:52 arriving into LZ at 18:56 but there's also a faster 17:47 departure arriving into LZ at 18:31 which looks like a safer option.

The F bus departs the airport every 20 minutes (at 17, 37 & 57 minutes past the hour) and takes just 17 minutes to get to the train station.  So the 17:17 bus from the airport, arrives at the train station at 17:34 in time for the 17:47 train.  The traffic in Innsbruck has always been ok when I've travelled through it, and Innsbruck station is well laid out to get to your platform quickly.

Earlier this year when I made this journey I bought a through ticket including the F bus, the train, and the 260 bus for just 19 euro - which was considerably cheaper than paying for each segment separately.

In order to be outside Innsbruck airport by 17:17 it means that you would need to leave London by around 13:30 ... which is unfortunate since there's a British Airways departure from Gatwick at 14:25 which is scheduled to arrive into INN at 17:30 ... but with the need to clear immigration (they don't separate EU and non EU arrivals) and collect your suitcase ... it's just too tight to catch the last train that connects with the last bus!

SZG to Landeck-Zams

Travelling by train from Salzburg station the latest connection departs at 15:56 arriving into LZ at 18:31 (stopping at Innsbruck on the way).

Bus Number 2 departs the airport every 15 minutes and take 22 minutes to get to the train station - although you can save a few minutes if you swap to the tram.  You could theoretically get the 15:30 bus from the airport and get to the train station at 15:52 to catch the train - but that's probably too tight!

In order to be outside Salzburg airport by 15:15 it means leaving London around 11:30 ... which is fairly civilised.

ZRH to Landeck-Zams

Train connection from Zurich airport aren't that frequent, so the latest departure from ZRH is at 14:23 (two changes required) arriving into LZ at 18:02 ... which would the connect with the 18:10 and 18:40 buses up the mountain.  There's also a 14:15 departure from ZRH which requires just one change of train (in Zurich Hauptbahnhof) arriving into LZ at 17:25 and connecting with the 17:40 bus to Ischgl.

With Zurich airport having it's own train station it eliminates the need for a bus connection.  In order to be down at the station underneath ZRH for the 14:15 train you would need to leave London around 11am ... which is also fairly civilised.

MUC to Landeck-Zams

Whilst Munich airport has good transport options (roughly every 20 minutes on the S8), it does take a good half hour to get into the city.  Departing the airport at 15:04 delivers you into the Munich East station at 15:35 connecting with the 15:44 departure to Innsbruck.  This arrives into Innsbruck at 17:18 giving plenty of time to get to LZ.  If you were to miss the 15:44 Innsbruck train, there's a slightly later departure at 15:58 which requires two changes (Rosenheim and Kufstein) which gets you into LZ at the same time.  If you missed the 15:58 train, the next ones are at 17:50 and 17:58 - so don't miss it!

In order to catch the 15:04 train from Munich airport - you would need to leave London around 11am ... which is still fairly civilised.

FDH to Landeck-Zams

There's two flights every Saturday from London to Friedrichshafen ... a 9:40 Easyjet flight from Gatwick and a 13:50 Lufthansa departure from Heathrow.

In order to make the last bus to Ischgl you would need to catch the 14:35 train from the airport station - which takes you the two stops into the main station, and connects with the 15:32 train to LZ.  Even if you chose to catch a taxi the short distance into the town station, the 15:32 is the last train which gets to LZ in time for the last bus.

This means that only the Easyjet flight will get you into FDH in time to make it to Ischgl.

Conclusion

In order to catch the last bus to Ischgl, you need to leave London around 11am for Salzburg, Zurich or Munich or 1pm for Innsbruck - which means that lots of flights are just too late.

The moral of the story is that it would be really helpful to have some later buses up the mountain to Ischgl from Landeck-Zams station - especially at the weekend when most people arrive.

Dublin to Ischgl for a few days skiing

Ischgl isn't the easiest of places to get to from Dublin ... there aren't (m)any direct flights from Dublin to Innsbruck (the nearest) airport to Ischgl ... so the journey is a bit longer ...

The other complication is that Swiss (the airline) seem to have gone back to the dark ages with their pricing ... single flights are exorbitant ... so if there isn't a flight in one of the directions on one of the days that you want - you're screwed !

Aiming to fly out of Dublin on Tuesday 2nd February ...

Dep Dublin 16:15
Arr Zurich 19:25
price 79 eur plug baggage (EI)

Dep Zurich Flughafen 20:18
Arr Landeck Zams bahnhof 23:42
price approx 60 eur

Taxi to Ischgl
price ?

Another option is to fly to Innsbruck on a connecting flight ... with plenty of time to check in again in LGW

Dep Dublin 07:35
Arr LGW 09:10
price 23.40 eur plus baggage (FR)

Dep LGW 11:30
Arr INN 14:30
price 68 eur plug baggage (EZY)

Bus F from the Flughafen terminal to the Hauptbahnhof takes less than 20 mins and departs every 15 mins
price 2.7 eur

Dep Innsbruck Hbf	15:57	17:01
Arr Landeck-Zams	16:58	17:57
Dep Landeck-Zams	17:05	18:05
Arr Ischgl	17:58	18:58

Price 16.1 eur for the train (postbus not bookable online - fare approx 10 eur)

A further option is to fly to Salzburg - one advantage of this routing is sold as a connecting flight by BA (although DUB-LGW is operated by EI) - so if you miss the connection in LGW, it's up to BA to find you a new one !

Dep Dublin 07:00
Arr LGW 08:25
Dep LGW 10:05
Arr Salzburg 13:05
price 157 eur including baggage

Dep Salzburg Flughafen	14:25	15:25
Arr Salzburg Hbf	14:47	15:47
Dep Salzburg Hbf	15:00	15:56
Arr Landeck-Zams	17:39	18:30
Dep Landeck-Zams	18:05	19:05
Arr Ischgl	18:58	19:58

Price 53.6 eur


Accommodation

Ischgl has a reasonable amount of accommodation bookable through the town's website - with B&Bs in the town (rather than in Mathon which is 5km away) from about 55 eur per person per night sharing.  Ganahl is showing availability on the website - others may be available offline by email the tourist office.


Return flight

Need to get back into Dublin around lunchtime on Sunday 7th February ... so looking at options that give a full day skiing on Saturday 6th ...

None of the airports have late flights on Saturday to Dublin - so starting off looking at late flights to London (so could fly to Dublin on Sunday morning) ...

Innsbruck
The last (sensibly priced) flight out on Saturday evening departs at 17:15 - so that's not much good

Salzburg
There's a 19:45 flight on Saturday evening from to London for just 37 eur - but you'd have to leave Ischgl by 2pm in order to make it

Zurich
The 20:50 departure to LHR is 148 eur - that would mean leaving around 3pm

Munich
The last flight from to London on Saturday night is soon after 7pm - so that's not much use


Looking at travelling to direct to Dublin on Sunday morning - so spending Saturday night near the airport ...

Munich
dep Ischgl 17:58 (or 15:58) and arr Munich 22:21 (or 21:15) for 39 eur (no price showing for earlier timings)
dep Munich Sunday at 11:05 and arr Dublin 12:45 for 106 eur plus baggage (EI)
or Sunday evening departure at 20:10 (arr Dub 21:50) for 100 eur plus baggage (EI)

Zurich
EI direct flight departing at 8pm (arr Dub at 21:25) for 102 eur
or connecting BA flight departing at 7am (arr Dub at 12:20) for 150 eur

Innsbruck
No direct flights
connecting FR/EZY flights departing at 10:45 (arr Dub 15:35) for 150 eur with 2:35 in Luton to transfer / check in

Salzburg
No direct flights
connecting FR flights departing at 10:30 (arr Dub 15:05) for 99 eur with 2:05 in Stansted to transfer / check in


Looking at travelling to London on Sunday evening

Munich
8pm departure for 86 eur plus bag (EZY) or 9.15pm departure for 100 eur - but doesn't work with connections
to make the 8pm departure - would need to leave Ischgl around 2pm

Zurich
9.25pm departure for 171 eur plus bag (EZY)
departing Ischgl soon after 3pm would get you to the airport by 7.45pm

Innsbruck
sadly the last flight to london is at 5.40pm (for a crazy 473 eur) and the 3.10pm flight (for a still hefty 219 eur) isn't very helpful

Salzburg
the last flight to london is at 5.05pm for 157 eur with BA
departing Ischgl soon after 10am would get you to the airport for 2.30pm - trains only every 2 hours

ischgl

i'm thinking of going to Ischgl for some skiing in January 2012 ...

the best value package holiday seems to be with Inghams for 602 gbp, which departs on a saturday, via Innsbruck ... or for 29 quid extra you could fly with BA, and with the evening departure on the way back, might get an extra morning's skiing (depending on the timing of the bus transfer to the airport) ...

alternatively, to be guaranteed an extra day's skiing, you could do your own package ...

accommodation

there isn't a great choice of accommodation that can be booked online through the town's website (unlike St Anton) ... but they do have a large number of B&Bs, it just seems that you have to contact them directly. their accommodation brochure lists Frühstückspensions from page 36 onwards (ÜF means Bed and Breakfast and HB is half board) and the map grid (planquadrat) helps to find the property - each street/house number combo is highlighted on the town map. to stay in the town itself, ignore all properties with a village name in brackets after the property name (Mathon, Versahl etc.)

one of the good options looks to be Bergfrieden which has 7 twin rooms and is located on the eastern side of town, about 10 mins walk from one of the gondolas, and a few minutes further to another gondola - which goes up to a different part of the ski area. prices start from about 35 euro per person per night ...

travel

the closest airport is INNsbruck, and Easyjet have return flights for around 191 gbp (including 1 piece of luggage). the resort isn't easy to access by train, but is possible with a bus into Innsbruck central station, a train to Landeck-Zams, and then a postbus up to Ischgl - total time would be about two and a half hours. the train part costs around 30 eur return, the postbus presumably another 10 eur each way, and the bus/taxi into Innsbruck station something similar ...

there doesn't seem to be any direct transfer buses, and the 100km journey by taxi for up to 4 people would be 300 eur or 320 eur return, or for up to 8 people it would be 382 eur return ...

another alternative is to fly to Allgäu airport (that well known hub) for 130 gbp (including the cost of a 15kg bag and the rip off credit card fee) from Stansted (dep just after midday) with Ryanair. the journey to Ischgl is about 200km - the 60 quid saving on the flight, could well be eaten up by the double distrance transfer ...

another option is to fly to ZuRicH - flights available from 98 gbp with Easyjet (a bit cheaper to fly back to LUTon) - the 3 hour train (approx 51 gbp) connection to Landeck-Zams (arr 19:21) would be too late for the last postbus up to Ischgl so would require a taxi 68 eur taxi. earlier flights with BA would be 150 gbp (cheaper available for horribly early departures) - so better to get the taxi up the valley ...

DIY price

so the total price (including an extra night's accommodation) via Zurich would be about 440 gbp (assuming the local taxi was shared between 3 pax) ...

flying via Innsbruck and got 4 people sharing a transfer the cost would be very similar to the long winded bus/train/bus option (even cheaper if there were up to eight in a minibus transfer) - and the total price including flights and accommodation would be around 500 gbp ...

Final Thoughts

if there were 4 or more people to share the transfer - Innsbruck seems like the best choice, or if there were just a couple of people, Zurich sounds fine !